This episode stars the glorious Alice Kaltman (The Tantalizing Tale of Grace Minnaugh, Wavehouse, Staggerwing). It was recorded over the Skype between the This Podcast Will Change Your Life home studio in Chicago, IL (as everything will be now, for the foreseeable future, and possibly forever) and Kaltman's Brooklyn home (though I do like to imagaine it was Kaltman's Montauk surf compound) in April 2020.