The Sales Machine

This Pricing Expert Doubled 150+ SaaS Companies Revenue (Here's How)


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Episode Summary

Discover hidden SaaS profit levers with Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt, top B2B pricing expert. From accidentally starting consulting to helping 150+ companies achieve 102% price increases, Ulrik reveals pricing isn't about numbers—it's about structure. Learn how shifting to all-you-can-eat pricing tripled a business and the psychological triggers that make customers buy.

Key Takeaways
  • Price customers, not products - segment packages by customer type
  • Package around outcomes - sell "pipeline generation" vs features
  • Use price anchors - provide comparison context
  • Avoid commercial debt - custom contracts kill scalability
  • Match complexity to deal size
  • Chapters

    00:58 - The Accidental Pricing Consultant

    How writing a book on pricing psychology during baby duty launched a million-dollar consulting career

    02:23 - From Conference Tickets to Microsoft Partnerships

    The surprising story of how one pricing experiment led to becoming Microsoft's preferred pricing partner

    07:09 - It's Not the Number, It's the Structure

    Why the "how" of pricing matters more than the "what" - the conference business case study

    10:34 - Package Around Outcomes, Not Features

    Transform your sales conversations by selling pipeline and conversion instead of basic and pro plans

    14:17 - The Psychology of Price Anchors

    Why no price is high or low except when compared to something else - mastering pricing psychology

    17:32 - Data-Driven Pricing That Actually Sells

    The promise times probability formula and why customers need reassurance, not just promises

    21:03 - The 102% Price Increase Methodology

    How segmented pricing strategies increase enterprise accounts while lowering prices for smaller customers

    24:33 - The Perpetual License Trap

    Why customers asking for one-time payments create a maintenance nightmare and kill innovation

    32:02 - The Complexity Budget Framework

    Matching pricing complexity to deal size - from simple $5K sales to complex $5M enterprise deals

    36:11 - Pricing Design vs. Pricing Math

    Why you're pricing the customer, not the product - the train class ticket analogy

    39:57 - The Commercial Debt Crisis

    How custom contracts and sales flexibility create an operational nightmare at scale

    41:46 - Should You Put Pricing on Your Website?

    The decision framework for public vs. private pricing and how transparency supports sales teams

    Guest Information

    Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt

    CEO, willingness to pay.com
    Author of "The Pricing Roadmap"
    150+ B2B SaaS pricing projects completed

    Connect with Ulrik:

    • Website: https://www.willingnesstopay.com/
    • Book: https://www.willingnesstopay.com/product/the-pricing-roadmap
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SaaSPricing
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