Season 3 finale of FatherShould, Karen Faustin joins the show, turning the tables on Fleming and Ms. Von to gauge their reflections on the latest season. Among other poignant and thought-provoking questions, she asks them both to summarize the season in three words, and has each expand on the other’s chosen words. They touch on the sacrifice and hard work of building a successful podcast, what they appreciate about each other, and what they’ve learned from their guests. It’s emotional. For Ms. Von the biggest takeaway from this season was the importance of being your own self-advocate, while Fleming felt the running theme was how people can make a healthy functioning family dynamic work through all kinds of adversity. They also look to the future, to Season 4 and beyond, and reveal what shape they hope the show will take. Fleming, notably hoping for it to become an agent of change. As long as men, and their crucial role in society, especially as fathers, continue to be undervalued, Fleming and Ms. Von will continue to champion them through thoughtful dialogue, unflinching storytelling, and humor.

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