This episode we talk to Frank Rosenthal & Eric Sherman. These guys are two legends out of the famous Renzo Gracie Academy in NYC and are trained daily by John Danaher. They are both high level Blackbelts and compete regularly on the biggest shows around. This podcast was shot on site in the blue basement at Renzos. We chat about training, litmus tests and why Jason Rau is a Dragon. In the back ground we also feature cameos by Gordon Ryan and John Danaher. Enjoy