It seems we are entering a new era of global order, with increasing divergence between countries such as China, Russia, the US, and the member states of the European Union. How will international politics evolve and what will define it? Will it be cooperation based on mutual interests or geopolitical competition between major powers?

In this episode of the Global Futures podcast, Thorsten Benner from the Global Public Policy Institute (GPPi) meets Thomas Wright, director of the Center of the United States and Europe and a senior fellow in the Project on International Order and Strategy at Brookings Institution. They discuss the futures of the global order and international politics.