Any time there is a tragedy, especially on a national or global scale, you see the term 'thoughts and prayers.'  Is this a meaningful response, or has it become just empty words?  We are joined by our friend, pastor & psychologist Jon Engen for what we think is an incredibly relevant and timely discussion on the power of words, and how they are used.

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