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Heather Surls, a journalist and author living in Jordan, we explore what it means to truly see the people behind the headlines. Through her time in the Middle East, Heather has learned to listen deeply, honor culture, and build connection across lines of difference. She shares how learning from women - through language, tradition, and shared values - has shaped her understanding of identity and belonging. Together, we talk about finding the fingerprints of God in unexpected places, holding tension with tenderness, and discovering what it means to be a peacemaker in lands often defined by division. This conversation invites us to see differently - and to be changed by what we see.

Heather is the author of the recently released book, Beyond The Jordan. https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Jordan-Misunderstood-Imperfect-Attempts/dp/1632968037