In this enlightening episode, Stacy Nation conducts an in-depth interview with Joe Brummer, a passionate advocate for trauma-informed restorative practices. Their conversation revolves around the importance of reframing our view of education through a trauma-informed lens, the way we approach restorative justice, and the role of adults in supporting struggling children. Drawing on his queer experience, Joe emphasizes the need for love and acceptance and urges educators to acknowledge their personal journey to empathize with the children. From exploring challenges faced by gay men to proposing a transformational shift in handling kids' mental health issues in schools, this episode is a rich exploration of the necessity to humanize educational practices.