In this special episode of Master of Circumstance, Jamie sits down with the man who’s had a front-row seat to his evolution—his mentor, Chris Kuhl. But instead of telling his own story, Jamie hands the mic over and lets Chris speak into it.

Chris shares what it’s been like to watch Jamie’s transformation from the outside looking in—through the highs, the heartbreak, and the breakthroughs. It’s not just a trip down memory lane—it’s a masterclass in mentorship, growth, and what it means to walk with someone through the messy middle of becoming.

Whether you’re guiding someone else, looking for guidance yourself, or wondering if people really can change—this episode is honest proof that transformation is possible, but it doesn’t happen alone.