This episode presents a candid and vulnerable reflection into the experience of one family of creatives and how they are making it work. Creatives and life partners, Artist Cannupa Hanska Luger and Producer Ginger Dunnill speak about their journey together for over a decade, making art, producing content and always being ‘one step closer to almost being done’. The focus of their conversation is on the last two+ years; navigating the pandemic, travel, making art and caring for family. This episode is shared in a hope to offer insight to others who may feel overwhelmed by the pressure to participate in the artworld in a sustainable way for mental and physical wellbeing.About the artists:Multi-disciplinary artist Cannupa Hanska Luger communicates stories of 21st century Indigeneity through social collaboration, performance and monumental installations which incorporate ceramic, steel and fiber. He exhibits, lectures and produces projects globally. www.cannupahanska.comBroken Boxes Podcast creator and host Ginger Dunnill centers collaboration to create a living archive in support of intersectionality. She has organized exhibitions and social engagement projects globally, activating transformative justice practices. www.brokenboxespodcast.comMusic: Tears Of Fire, Glad As Knives, 2011