Chelsea brings to the table another flavor of pancakes: by talking about some of the famous and infamous serial killers to give you an idea of what different types of serial killers exist in the world. She identifies some of the differences and similarities in psychopathy and sociopathy in addition to using the Diagnostic Statistics Manual to help broaden one’s understanding of criteria for different mental illnesses and personality disorders.

**Beth Thomas is actually a nurse now, not a therapist. Also it appears that she is a functioning member of society so please disregard that piece of the podcast**

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