It's another holiday week, so enjoy this episode from the ESW archives!

The cloud and SaaS were supposed to make things easier, simpler, more scalable. Arguably, they _have_ done all those things, but traditional, legacy networks linger. Migrations are messy and take time. Nearly everything is encrypted in transit by default. Today, we interview Marty Roesch, the creator of Snort and founder of SourceFire, to discuss how things have changed and what defenders can do to catch up and restore some order to the madness. We'll step through some history along the way - listeners might be surprised at how much our current situation mirrors the reasons behind why Marty created Snort in the first place.