<p>In this episode, Tim Dordell and Kirk Ballard show Andy around their cabin, talk about preserving Minnesotan White Pines and what it means to be a responsible cabin owner.</p>

In this episode, Tim Dordell and Kirk Ballard show Andy around their cabin, talk about preserving Minnesotan White Pines and what it means to be a responsible cabin owner.

Tim Dordell and Kirk Ballard

Minnesota is filled with natural wonders—our lakes, fields, forests, parks and open spaces. Join Upstream director Andy Goldman-Gray and a new guest weekly for conversations about what makes our places special, and how we care for the natural places that make Minnesota beautiful. You’ll learn more about Minnesota’s natural places and the people who care for them.

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Tim Dordell and Kirk Ballard

Tim Dordell and Kirk Ballard