Tom talks to Tim Little, owner and CEO of Grenson, shoemakers since 1866.

Tom and Tim go head-to-toe on the the tiny details of their respective industries, the sub-millimetre measurements of shoe design (including tangents on Tom’s own foray into bootmaking), and judge each other on their respective eyewear and footwear.

Tim also brings in three Emotional Utilitarian objects which subtly structure his life. See his objects while you listen here.

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