In this episode of the Why Should I Refer You? podcast, Mike engages with Tim Rhode, a seasoned business growth advisor and leadership coach. They discuss Tim's journey in the fitness industry, innovative business models, and the dynamics of referrals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of personal connections, understanding value in business relationships, and the risks associated with urgency in sales. Tim shares insights on building trust and reputation in referrals, the mindset of givers versus getters, and the significance of creating long-term business relationships. The episode concludes with resources for personal and professional growth.

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