Hosts Dave and Luke sit down with Dr. John Sanders, a family physician pioneering a preventive, human-centered approach to healthcare. Instead of reacting to crises, Dr. Sanders champions a model rooted in deep relationships, trust, and time, arguing that true wellness begins long before symptoms appear. He explains why today’s “sick-care” system struggles to prioritize mental fitness, how direct primary care revitalized his career, and why emotional health must be woven into every level of care, from childhood through adulthood.

Using real stories from his clinic, Dr. Sanders illustrates the powerful overlap between mental and physical health and outlines simple daily habits that support whole-person well-being, including sleep, walking, and limiting screens. He also examines trauma, early-life emotional patterns, and the neuroscience behind prevention, offering an accessible and hopeful blueprint for taking back your health before life becomes overwhelming.

Chapters
[Start] Rethinking “Sick-Care”: Why our healthcare system waits for breakdowns instead of building strength ahead of time.
03:15 The Fence vs. the Ambulance: An insightful metaphor for prevention and why current incentives hold us back.
08:40 Emotional & Physical Health Are One: From childhood trauma to metabolic health—how body and mind shape each other.
14:45 Time, Trust, and the Magic of Connection: Why 30–60 minutes with a doctor can change everything compared to a rushed 5-minute visit.
30:00 Practical Habits for Mental Fitness: Sleep hygiene, screen limits, movement, whole foods, and nature as medicine.

Links and Resources

• ElizaChat - Your Personal Mental Fitness Coach
• Voyage Clinics: Dr. Sanders’ Practice