In this episode, you'll hear a heart-to-heart chat with founder Tim Eldred and Chris Brown from Northcoast Church. They dive into how tough it can be for pastors to drop the act and be real. It's a raw and eye-opening talk that gives you the green light to be yourself. For ministry leaders, this is a goldmine. Thanks for tuning in. If you like what you hear, pass it along. And don't be shy—share your thoughts and stories with us.