Paul sits down with Professor Timothy Morton, an eco-philosopher, artist, and author of 25 books, translated 40 times into 18 languages. They explore the connection between philosophy, ecology, spirituality, fascism, and shame. Their discussion centers on the notion that acknowledging our existence within the biosphere is a profound spiritual encounter. Professor Morton's broad range of work spans philosophy, literature, music, art, and more, resonating not only with scholars and philosophers but also with artists and creative minds who cherish the interconnectedness of the natural world. 

[00:00:35] What it is to be a life form
[00:05:53] The jungle is a cathedral
[00:10:12] Indigenous peoples
[00:14:32] Appreciating the atomic structure
[00:17:09] Recognizing our interconnectedness
[00:23:12] The trickster quality of nature
[00:27:18] Gender and identity exploration
[00:30:46] Evolution and sexual selection
[00:34:37] Rediscovering family relationships
[00:39:40] Spiritual experiences and Kundalini
[00:41:42] The concept of telos
[00:45:40] The human condition of shame
[00:50:57] Shame and self-limiting beliefs
[00:53:09] A shame audit
[00:57:23] Self-medication and societal energy

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