This episode is a deep dive with Tina Klüwer, a beacon in Germany's AI landscape. From trying to understand human thought by replicating it in machines to founding an AI startup in 2014, Tina's overflowing enthusiasm has always been an asset. We discuss the nuances between academia and startup culture and tackle pressing topics like societal biases mirrored in AI. We touch upon her role in explaining to Germany's policymakers what AI can and can't do, as well as the question of whether machines have developed consciousness.