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Many organizations invest heavily in leadership development, yet still struggle to see meaningful results.

In this episode of The 60 Second Podcast, Matt McCoy sits down with Tina Schust Robinson, Founder & CEO of WorkJoy and author of Developing Your Business Leaders: A Guide to Investing at All Levels, to discuss why most leadership programs fail to deliver impact.

Tina explains why leadership development should be treated as a business investment rather than an HR initiative, how organizations can align leadership development with strategy, and what separates meaningful leadership growth from corporate theatre.

If you're a founder, executive, HR leader, or manager looking to build stronger leaders and better business outcomes, this episode is packed with practical insights.