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Tired and Two Rums In (Discovery - Through the Valley of Shadows)
Andy Clift returns to the show to discuss Through the Valley of Shadows, an episode we have mixed feelings on. Even Andy, the perpetual Star Trek optimist, has issues with it. Plus! Prequels, and why they may not be a good idea, even if you're enjoying them, and are we the first Star Trek podcast to make a joke about Gant charts?
Theme tune by Eliot Red
Artwork by Gavin Mitchell
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Check out Eliot's music on Soundcloud and YouTube
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Follow Andy on Instagram, visit his website at https://andywclift.myportfolio.com/, and check out Eddsworld!
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Find Safe Space and Endangered Species, featuring PJ, Mat and Eliot, on Vince Hunt's YouTube Channel
This episode was recorded remotely in August 2025.
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By PJ MontgomeryAndy Clift returns to the show to discuss Through the Valley of Shadows, an episode we have mixed feelings on. Even Andy, the perpetual Star Trek optimist, has issues with it. Plus! Prequels, and why they may not be a good idea, even if you're enjoying them, and are we the first Star Trek podcast to make a joke about Gant charts?
Theme tune by Eliot Red
Artwork by Gavin Mitchell
Follow the podcast on BlueSky, Instagram, Facebook and Threads.
If you enjoy the podcast, and would like to support it, you can buy us a coffee on ko-fi.com or make a monthly donation on Patreon.
Check out Eliot's music on Soundcloud and YouTube
Follow Mat on Instagram and Threads
Follow PJ on BlueSky and Instagram
Follow Andy on Instagram, visit his website at https://andywclift.myportfolio.com/, and check out Eddsworld!
Follow Gavin on Instagram
Find Safe Space and Endangered Species, featuring PJ, Mat and Eliot, on Vince Hunt's YouTube Channel
This episode was recorded remotely in August 2025.