Hollywood knows a good thing when it reads it, and TJ Newman is a very good thing whose two novels are currently in the works to become movies. Her second thriller, Drowning, once again draws on her flight expertise from a decade spent as cabin crew and it is the perfect summer, or anytime-of-year read. Proper page-turning stuff. As ever, you never quite know where these conversations might go with us, but come on the ride that'll take in some musical theatre (YES! says Natalie), love of the film Titanic, disaster epics and how 41 rejections can be spun into gold!

We loved this conversation with TJ and while Phil and Natalie await their own publishing dreams to be realized, if you're in a position to buy a metaphorical cuppa to show your support, thank you!

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