Lisa Neigut is the founder of Base58, a Bitcoin protocol academy that helps teach developers the fundamentals of Bitcoin.

In our conversation, we did a deep-dive on Bitcoin’s layer two ecosystem, we explored the goals, trade-offs, and potential of different solutions, as well as a discussion about layer two interoperability, and what (if anything) lies beyond layer two.

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Timestamps

00:00 - Intro

02:00 - Lisa Neigut Intro

08:25 - Why Are There So Many Layer Two Solutions?

16:04 - Layer Two Scaling vs. Layer Two New Features

29:30 - Will Layer Two Solutions Be Interoperable?

35:15 - What Is Missing From Bitcoin’s Layer Two Ecosystem?

39:56 - Layer Two Incentives

47:05 - What Lies Beyond Layer Two?

51:52 - Frameworks for Understanding Bitcoin Layers

59:02 - Comparing Various Layer Two Solutions

1:11:33 - Final Thoughts for Layer Two Builders