The curator of the Cage Match project and host for this podcast, Ariel René Jackson, interviews hiba ali, a digital artist, educator, scholar, DJ, experimental music producer and curator based across Chicago, IL, Toronto, Ontario, and Austin, Texas where our paths crossed during our time as graduate students attending The University of Texas at Austin. ali is currently a PhD candidate in Cultural Studies at Queens University in Kingston, Canada. Her performances and videos center on surveillance, womxn of color, and labor. She also conducts reading groups addressing digital media and workshops with open-source technology.  On this episode we discuss ali's artistic practice and dissertation research on Amazon and how it has monopolized perceivable options of where to purchase items online during COVID-19. hiba discusses some alternatives to purchasing items on Amazon. Check out www.threshold.us/c/cancelprime for practical strategies as well hiba ali's "Amazonification : Reading List" at www.hibaali.info/projects/amazonification-reading-list for more information.