Another conversation between Jeremy and his globe-strewn friends. This time it's Toby, a German he met in Singapore during  time as a technology journalist with Reuters. A former concert pianist, Toby doesn't fit your idea of a startup founder, which is perhaps why he makes for more interesting company. But how is the lockdown affecting his battling business? Jeremy tracks him down to his mother's home in the German forests, where he has some surprising insights -- and predictions about Life in A Pandemic.

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