Toby and I get together on the virtual plane and discuss some topics. We catch up because I have been gone for years and we talk about some progress with their podcast, their topics and some of the challenges that are faced. We discuss things about the occult studies, magic and the recent shootings that have been going on. It a hard topic but we try to leave a message for everyone to remember and it has nothing to do with the politics of it. Had a blast reconnecting with a great friend! Til next time
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