In this episode, I sit down with Todd and Elizabeth Hall to do discuss their recently published book, Relational Spirituality. We also chat about their own experience engaging in collaborative, interdisciplinary work with theologians and philosophers. .Elizabeth and Todd are both professors of psychology at Rosemead school of Psychology at Biola University. Liz’s research interests include women and work, mothering, sexism, embodiment and meaning-making in suffering; and she has published over one hundred chapters and articles related to these and other topics. Todd’s research focuses on relational approaches to spirituality, virtue, and leadership. He has also developed several widely used spiritual assessments, and has codeveloped the Flourish Assessment. Last year their book, Relational Spirituality was published by IVP Academic,