Featuring Nicholas Hu, who was IT guy, banker, intern, and then interior designer, entrepreneur and co-founder of Build Built. We talk about his mental allergy to tofu and switching mid-career to the design and construction industry. We explore the tensions between design and art, and function, aesthetics and clients’ preferences; empathy as the designer’s ethos in contrast to artificially intelligent machines; and applying design and project management to living life, passion and purpose.