In today's episode, we are changing things up a bit!  The Therapist in Training interviews both Tom Marron and Shaun Gordon (who both live in the same town, but may not know it)! Tom is a chemist by trade with a photography hobby and an interest in social sciences who first introduced me to Charles' Duhigg book, The Power of Habit.  Shaun is the co-founder and Chief Visionary Officer at Kiss Books, although, if he had any other job he would be an inspirational speaker. They both chat with The Therapist in Training about habit loops, creating keystone habits and essentially beginning to change routines in order to embrace the life you always dreamed of having.