In today's episode, Thomas talks with Tonille Miller, a management consultant, I/O psychologist, and founder of EXT about designing the employee experience. She unpacks how viewing an organization as a product can increase employee engagement and drive business outcomes. Sharing her framework to build better workplaces, Tonille details the qualities a new kind of leader needs to help people do the best work of their lives. She discusses the impact of Return to Office mandates on employees and strategies to better measure productivity and effectiveness without sacrificing engagement. She concludes by sharing how her upcoming book will answer the question, "how do we attract and engage people in our evolving world of work?" To learn more about Tonille and her work, visit www.tonillemiller.com or www.experienceandtransformation.com.