Tony Pantages spent 30 years making films, until a steelhead salmon changed his mind. In this episode, David sits down with the President of Octaform to talk about the strange, almost mystical moment on a river in the Great Bear Rainforest that pulled him out of the film industry and into clean energy, how a "giant tank" became the backbone of a global business spanning biogas, aquaculture, and food security, and why the world's biggest challenges from empty oceans to wasted food are also its biggest opportunities. This is a conversation about betting on instinct, building infrastructure that quietly changes industries, and the belief that struggle, more than comfort, is what actually gets you there.