In this episode, we open up about the real, often complicated relationship we have with mental health and therapy. One of us is navigating moderate depression with years of counseling under her belt, while the other is living with unmedicated ADHD—wondering if she should finally make that call.

We talk candidly about what it means to live in a world that still shames emotional struggles, especially for women over 50. From feeling like “too much” to wondering if we’re “not doing enough,” we unpack the invisible pressure to “hold it together” and why that’s so exhausting.

This conversation is about normalizing mental health, challenging stigma, and reminding you that you’re not alone. Whether you’re in therapy, resisting it, or somewhere in between, we hope this gives you permission to feel what you feel—and reach out when you need support.

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