On this episode Kate and Sally talk about their new Patreon, the documentary Leaving Neverland, Luke Perry (RIP), birthdays, and going to the dentist. Then they answer an email from a listener who’s trying to figure out if they should stop going to therapy.

00:00 Welcome to The Struggle Bus

6:02 Opening Jibber Jabber (CN 9:55 - 30:06 talk about the Michael Jackson documentary "Leaving Neverland")

34:50 A Thing We Did (for Self-Care)

37:37 Email: How to know if you should stop going to therapy

55:03 Song of the Week (Kate's pick)