Michael Saylor, executive chairman and former chief exec of MicroStrategy, shared some new insights in an interview with George Gammon and private fund manager and commodities analyst Doomberg.

In an hour and a half live discussion on Tuesday, Saylor reiterated his theory that bitcoin is the best hedge against the debasement of fiat currency. Then, he faced a series of tough questions and divulged more information on his decision to go all-in on bitcoin.

It’s the first time that Saylor has spoken so candidly about his quest to turn MicroStrategy into a highly leveraged bitcoin bet.

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