What's the secret behind groundbreaking innovation at companies like Apple and Tesla? In this episode of The Meridian Point, Kumar Dattatreyan and Glenn Marshall unpack the psychological safety paradox: how seemingly demanding leaders like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk create environments where innovation flourishes.

The hosts explore how mission-driven organizations balance psychological safety with high standards, enabling teams to take risks, challenge ideas, and occasionally fail without fear. Discover why psychological safety isn't about comfort but about creating space for experimentation that leads to revolutionary products.

This conversation offers essential insights for anyone interested in building innovative teams, revealing how psychological safety operates at multiple levels and why it looks different across organizations. Don't miss this deep dive into the leadership dynamics that drive today's most disruptive companies.