Who has won MVP of The Super Bowl AND had a movie created about his life story? My latest Tough Talks Podcast guest, that's who. Kurt Warner.

Kurt's Cinderella story is easily one of the best in NFL history (that's why they made the movie, American Underdog, about it).

Through countless trials and tribulations, Kurt and his remarkable wife, Brenda, continuously chose to believe in his passion and his dream until he pulled it off.

From food stamps to the Hall of Fame.

And according to him, they're just getting started!