This week, we're back for a conversation about what’s broken in Democratic branding and what it’ll take to fix it.

We start with Obama’s recent call for Democrats to “stop whining and toughen up". We talk about what it means for Democrats to fight back and stop being a punching bag.

Our conversation goes to the infamous Epstein files, which Trump is now calling a hoax (hmmm, we wonder why...). We get into how MAGA excuses Trump's behaviors and how there's some internal tension within the current GOP.

Along the way, we talk about the GOP’s branding advantage and the Democratic Party’s allergic reaction to its own power.

We'll be off next week, but tune into @brandingdems to keep in touch.

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