In this episode I talk to Brian Jordan, all around MC for Toughest OCR in Europe. We talk about the various obstacles that Toughest offers from physically exhausting obstacles, to easy and fun obstacles and how Toughest has something for everyone. We also talk about how Toughest is different from races in the U.S. and whats to come for Toughest.

Brian also recently attended OCRWC and had some cool insight on Dragons Back which is a Toughest original obstacle. We had a long conversation with Faye in episode 38 about Dragons Back in OCRWC. Brian shares with us that though its a mentally terrifying obstacle, in all reality it is an extremely easy obstacle once you take the first leap.

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