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TP436: The Patient Doesn’t Know They’re in a Funnel


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In this episode, hosts Chris Boyer and Reed Smith examine why the classic funnel framework may not reflect the complex, emotional, and often anonymous nature of how people engage with care decisions today.

  • Rethinking intent and awareness in healthcare journeys

  • Why decision-making is fragmented and reactive

  • How privacy regulations are eliminating visibility across the funnel

  • Why traditional conversion metrics miss the moments that matter

  • How progressive profiling and experience design create better results

    Healthcare strategist Aaron Mauck joins the show to discuss how marketing leaders can navigate the demands of privacy, performance, and profitability. The conversation explores how to personalize ethically, demonstrate ROI without overtracking, and prepare for the next wave of AI and regulation.

    Why it matters: Healthcare consumers are not leads to be pushed through a funnel. They are people seeking clarity, trust, and access. Today’s marketing must meet them on their terms.

    Mentions from the Show: 

    • Aaron Mauck on LinkedIn

    • Freshpaint.io

    • Reed Smith on LinkedIn

    • Chris Boyer on LinkedIn

    • Chris Boyer website

    • Chris Boyer on BlueSky

    • Reed Smith on BlueSky


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