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TP441: SEO is Like Golf Now


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Chris Boyer and Reed Smith explore how AI is transforming the digital discovery journey — and why traditional SEO tactics may no longer cut it. They discuss: 

  • The Collapse of the Keyword Empire - as AI-generated results increasingly dominate SERPs, healthcare brands must rethink how they show up in search.

  • Intent, Not Indexing -  AI search surfaces content differently, prioritizing context over keywords. This shift forces a new content strategy grounded in helpfulness, not hierarchy.

  • Search as Experience - with Google rolling out Search Generative Experience (SGE), the very notion of “ranking” is dissolving into curated, AI-assembled summaries.

  • Adapt or Disappear – what marketers must do today to remain visible in a world where GenAI is the first interaction layer.

    Thought leader Carrie Liken joins to unpack the implications of Google’s generative search future, the collapse of zero-click visibility, and what it means for hospitals trying to compete in a rapidly changing landscape.

    Mentions From the Show: 

    • How AI is reshaping SEO: Challenges, opportunities, and brand strategies for 2025 Search Engine Land

    • Search trends for 2025: Is a new ecosystem emerging?

    • 2025 trend: Generative search will become the new normal, shaking up ad spend

    • How to navigate the changing landscape of search in 2025

    • AI-driven search ad spending set to surge to $26 billion by 2029, data shows

    • Carrie Liken on LinkedIn

    • Carrie Liken on SubStack

    • Reed Smith on LinkedIn

    • Chris Boyer on LinkedIn

    • Chris Boyer website

    • Chris Boyer on BlueSky

    • Reed Smith on BlueSky


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