Ryan sits down with up and coming Hip Hop artist Jovan Mackenzy. They discuss Jovan's tough upbringing and his inspiration for music and art. Why art is one of the better mediums to communicate hard truth, writing process, role of faith in creating art, and much more. Check out Jovan's work at: www.jovanmackenzy.com.

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