Podcast trade talk continues, with the JBP plus Ian Dunlap attempting to build fair return packages for each cast member, including Joe. Later, Joe and Ish argue over why Ish was without a contract for two years and Joe explains why he would be a much more pleasant co-worker if he were strictly talent. The room also discusses what they’d each need to do to double their income, SPOILER ALERT the latest from ‘Paradise,’ why Apple TV is better than MAX when it comes to original content, Reason speaking out on his split from TDE, and much more!