Our guest on Episode #73 of the TGG Podcast, in association with Teamworks, is Rob Mackenzie.

Rob is the Head of Scouting at Tottenham and has worked for the Europa League champions for two years. 

Prior to Spurs, he was Head of Recruitment at Aston Villa and at Leuven in Belgium, and Head of Technical Scouting at Leicester City, helping to lay the foundations for their Premier League triumph. 

In this episode Rob gave us the inside track on Tottenham's scouting operation and gave insights into his two decades in the game. 

Our guest on Episode #72 of the TGG Podcast, in association with Teamworks, is Manchester United and England goalkeeper Tom Heaton.

Tom is playing his 21st season as a professional and is a member of United's new five-man leadership team, along with Bruno Fernandes, Harry Maguire, Lisandro Martinez and Noussair Mozraoui.

In this Episode he told us what it's like behind the scenes at United, about establishing himself at Burnley under Sean Dyche, about his experiences with England and his ambitions for the future.

SHOW NOTES =>

01:30: What the non-internationals do during the international break.

02:28: Thoughts on new Carrington training ground. 

03:16: Can facilities be too nice and spoil players?

04:19: Being part of the new leadership team at the club.

05:11: Being inspired - but not weighed down - by the past.

06:35: What's the culture like behind the scenes?

07:49: Staying focused on the long-term plan.

08:54: First impressions of new goalkeeper Senne Lammens.

09:23: Does he coach the other keepers?

09:49: Joining United as an 11-year-old.

11:43: Influence of Sir Alex Ferguson.

12:37: His six loans as a United player. Positive experience and 'real' football.

15:21: Returning to United in 2021. Has it gone as planned?

18:12: Finding a home at Burnley (2013 to 2019). Playing under Sean Dyche. Defensive detail and organisation. Goalkeeper factory under Billy Mercer and Craig Mawson. 

23:36: Evolution of role of the goalkeeper. 

26:40: Which goalkeepers do you admire?

27:45: How long will you carry on playing?

28:37: What do you plan to do when you finish playing?

30:35: Going to the Euros with England as a training goalkeeper.

32:45: Thoughts on the Sporting Director role. Have done the UEFA Football Management Course.

34:01: Sean Dyche or Sir Alex Ferguson as a hybrid manager-Sporting Director. 

35:06: Hopes for the rest of the season with Man Utd. Optimistic?

35:49: Looking ahead to appearance at TGG Live 2025 at Old Trafford on October 8th. 

Our guest on Episode #71 of the TGG Podcast is Nick Montgomery, Ange Postecoglou's Assistant at Nottingham Forest.

The duo worked together at Tottenham last season, helping the North London side win their first piece of silverware in 17 years, when they claimed the Europa League.

Montgomery has worked in football for almost three decades, as a player, coach and manager, and in England, Scotland and Australia.

This episode was recorded a day before Montgomery joined Forest, but he talked about what it’s like to work with Postecoglou, about their struggles and triumphs last season and why some of the narratives about the Australian are incorrect. 

SHOW NOTES =>

01:50: What he's been doing since Spurs sacking

04:44: Winning the Europa League

06:26: Why so many injuries?

09:30: Injuries gave young players an opportunity. What is was like to work with Archie Gray & Lucas Bergval. Why it's a younger game now.

14:54: Set pieces - Tottenham didn't neglect them. We're much better at them than people gave them credit for. Whether you need a dedicated Set Piece Coach or not.

24:41: Narrative about Postecoglou's style of play. Why you need a big squad to rotate. Difference between principles, philosophies and tactics.

30:16: Career as a player. Working with Neil Warnock. How he treated everyone differently. Game was more aggressive and macho when he was playing. Doesn't know why apprentices cleaning the pros' boots has gone out of the game. Dangers of social media. Example of Brennan Johnson coming off Instagram.

39:24: Moving to Australia as a player with Central Coast Mariners. Player to Academy Manager to Head Coach. Winning first league title for the club. 

41:37: How he got to know Postecoglou. 

43:27: Merits of taking your own staff to a club v having a new staff, as Postecoglou has. 

45:08: Joining Hibernian as Manager. Why tenure only lasted one season. 

49:13: Can Postecoglou achieve big things as a Manager in future?

51:47: When Postecoglou said he always wins things in his second season. How was that for the players and staff?

55:14: Ambitions for rest of his career. 

Our guest on Episode #70 of the TGG Podcast, in association with Teamworks Intelligence, is Simon Wilson.

Simon is the Chief Executive of Stockport County and one of the most experienced football leaders in the UK.

At Southampton, he was only the second full-time performance analyst in the country, before joining Manchester City in 2006.

His time there coincided with the new ownership of Sheikh Mansour and a period of complete transformation. Simon played a key role in this, first as Head of Analysis, then Strategy and Performance Manager and finally as Director of Football Services for the entire City Football Group.

In this latter role, Simon designed, built and delivered the club's global multi-club operation. 

After a short spell as Chief Football Officer at Sunderland, Simon joined Stockport County in 2020 and has masterminded their climb through the divisions. In February 2025, he was promoted from Director of Football to Chief Executive.

In this Episode, Simon told us about his career journey, about his pivotal work at Manchester City and about Stockport's seven-year plan.

SHOW NOTES =>

02:27: Reflections on Stockport's summer transfer window.

03:21: Getting over last season's play-off semi-final defeat.

05:06: The club's seven-year plan.

07:45: What it's like working with Stockport owner Mark Stott.

08:53: How does the new squad compare to last season's?

09:45: The strength of this season's League One.

11:39: Simon discusses his time working at Sunderland.

16:24: How did Simon first get involved in football?

19:51: His first jobs with clubs - first at Preston and then Southampton.

21:19: Being only the second full-time Performance Analyst in the UK.

22:14: Working with Sir Clive Woodward.

23:25: Joining Manchester City.

25:27: Sheikh Mansour taking over at City.

29:08: Simon Pearce and Brian Marwood's involvement at the Etihad.

31:35: Becoming Director of Football Services for the City Football Group.

36:01: The difference between an entertainment club and a talent club in the multi-club model.

36:57: Are smaller clubs in a multi-club model servicing the bigger clubs?

39:44: Players moving between clubs in the group.

40:19: Economies of scale and sharing of data between the group's clubs.

41:47: Why Simon left Manchester City.

43:38: The current state of the game.

45:54: Moving from Sporting Director to CEO - how it's going.

47:13: What does the future hold for Simon?

Our guest on Episode #69 of the TGG Podcast, in association with Teamworks, is Luke Bornn. 

Luke has been one of the leading figures in sports analytics for more than a decade. After working as an Assistant Professor at Harvard University, he became Head of Analytics at Roma and then with the Sacramento Kings.

In 2020 he co-founded Zelus Analytics, a sports intelligence platform providing data-driven insights to top teams, including Toulouse & AZ Alkmaar.

In 2024, Zelus was acquired by Teamworks and became Teamworks Intelligence. Luke spoke about what he's been doing since we last spoke on the pod in 2021, about his groundbreaking work with Toulouse and about the future of sports analytics.

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SHOW NOTES =>

02:21: What's been happening since you were last on the pod (in July 2021?)

04:36: What was your day-to-day involvement with Toulouse FC? What was the influence of data? Focusing on what matters.

11:31: Why data can help you to make better decisions. Why it's difficult to make long-term assessments in football.

15:31: Why English football overstates the importance of the Head Coach and why it's difficult to identify the coaches who genuinely make a difference.

18:55: Why Toulouse chose NOT to have a defined style of play. Benefits of 'zagging when others are zigging.'

24:50: Involvement with AZ Alkmaar. Why they are the best-run club in Europe over the course of the last decade. How they 'placed strategic bets' and won. 'Making the main thing the main thing.' How 10 to 15 decisions a season drive 95% of the value.

31:06: Role of Billy Beane, star of Moneyball and investor in Zelus Analytics.

31:52: Sale of Zelus to Teamworks and how they can add value for clubs.

36:25: Why clubs need to decide what they want from analytics. Should ultimately be about making better decisions. Importance of being aligned and why performance and analytics shouldn't be separate departments. 'If you're not improving decisions, you're not doing anything.' 

40:04: Teamworks Intelligence and what it can bring to clubs/ federations.

42:30: Future of analytics - and for Luke personally. 

Tracking data has transformed the way clubs analyse the game.

This cornucopia of information is shaped and analysed by data scientists to create valuable insights for coaches, managers, Heads of Recruitment, Sporting Directors and more.

But how much do you know about tracking data? Ie what it is, how it's collected, how it's analysed (and by whom), and how different departments and personnel use it?

This episode of the TGG Podcast sets out to answer those questions and more. 

Our guests are:

Michael D'Auria: The Executive Vice President of Partnerships, Sports and Technology for Genius Sports, the official tracking data provider for the Premier League. Michael has been at the cutting edge of tracking data provision for more than a decade, having previously been Chief Commercial Officer for Second Spectrum.

Dominic Jordan: Chief Data Officer for Twelve Football and the former Director of Data at Manchester United. Dominic 'builds great teams to help great companies become leaner, greener and better equipped to succeed in a data-rich world.'

SHOW NOTES =>

MICHAEL D’AURIA

02:03: Michael defines tracking data.

06:00: Relaying the data to teams and users after matches.

07:17: How tracking data revolutionised data science.

08:20: The origins of tracking data.

08:50: The first time football started to use it.

09:23: Capturing the data at Premier League & Championship matches.

11:56: Positioning tracking cameras inside a stadium.

12:40: Methods of passing data to coaching staff during a match.

14:05: A club data scientist’s job on a matchday.

14:45: The software used to present the live data.

16:00: What managers and coaches see on their tablets during a game.

18:53: Liverpool’s use of data over the years.

19:48: Tracking data’s ways of assessing a player.

22:34: Hopes for sharing data between worldwide leagues.

24:10: Mesh tracking explained.

30:05: Liverpool’s views on early tracking data.

31:24: The future of data science staff at football clubs.

32:32: Does use of data lead to success?

DOMINIC JORDAN

37:13: The difference between event data and tracking data.

38:58: Rise in the number of data staff at clubs.

42:04: Different kinds of tracking.

44:55: How clubs use tracking data.

49:02: Getting tracking data to clubs during a match.

51:07: Tracking data workflows.

56:49: Managers’ views on the use of data.

Our guest on Episode #67 of the TGG Podcast, in association with Genius Sports, is Andrew Nestor.

Andrew is the Sporting Director of West Brom, working under new owner Shilen Patel. When the duo arrived in February 2024, the club's finances were in a "perilous" position.

Since then, they have focused on rejuvenating the squad, while being mindful of profit and sustainability rules. 

Speaking the morning after West Brom's last-gasp 2-1 defeat at Bristol City, Nestor told us about his role as Sporting Director, his strategy at the Championship club and how he cut his teeth in football as owner, CEO and General Manager of the Tampa Bay Rowdies in the US.

SHOW NOTES =>

03:35: Andrew's thoughts on Baggies manager Tony Mowbray and the squad.

04:35: How he has found his role so far.

06:02: First impressions of West Brom on arriving at the club.

07:23: The Baggies were known as being innovative before Andrew's arrival - was that the situation he found?

08:16: How he worked on changing the squad, which was the oldest, based on minutes played, and fifth highest-paid in Championship.

10:00: The part the club's Academy plays in Andrew's strategy and extending the stays of younger players.

11:40: His thoughts on West Brom's style of play and how to adapt it.

15:16: Bringing in a data team to support the club's scouting process.

18:40: Planning for life in either the Championship or the Premier League at the same time.

19:25: Why Tony Mowbray was appointed as head coach.

23:57: Keeping a long-term vision for the club despite external pressure.

25:08: Carlos Corberan's departure.

26:52: Andrew's first off-the-field job in football with the Tampa Bay Rowdies.

29:05: His career outside the game before that.

29:41: Success at Tampa Bay and working with Paul Mariner and Paul Dalglish.

31:39: Meeting WBA chairman Shilen Patel for the first time.

32:23: Leaving Tampa Bay to go to Bologna.

34:44: How Andrew and Shilen ended up joining West Brom.

35:42: Shilen's involvement with the club.

36:32: Andrew's first experience of being a Sporting Director.

37:33: His wide remit at The Hawthorns.

39:06: Working closely with Ian Pearce.

39:54: The club's financial situation, largely affected by the loss of parachute payments.

41:52: What are the Baggies' short and medium-term prospects?

43:56: Reflections on the January transfer window.

46:07: Where Andrew bases himself.

It's great to be back for Season 6 of the TGG Podcast - and with a new sponsor, Genius Sports.

Our first guest of the new season is Vitor Matos, the former Head of Elite Development at Liverpool. During five seasons at Anfield, Vitor helped to nurture a new generation of talent and deliver a number of trophies.

Since leaving Liverpool at the end of last season, he has been Assistant to Pep Lijnders at Red Bull Salzburg.

In this episode, Vitor told us what it was like to work alongside Jurgen Klopp, the key components of development, how Curtis Jones can lead the new generation at Liverpool and how Arne Slot has made subtle changes this season. 

SHOW NOTES =>

02:10: What he's been doing since leaving Red Bull Salzburg in December 2024. Reflections on that period now.

04:36: Jurgen Klopp coming in as Head of Global Soccer for Red Bull but periods didn't overlap. Parallels between Red Bull clubs and Liverpool.

06:33: How he started in coaching. Mourinho as an inspiration. 

08:02: Meeting Pep Lijnders for the first time.

09:40: Influence of Professor Vitor Frade/ studying under him at University of Porto.

11:56: Why is Portuguese coaching so strong? Why is there a paucity of top English coaches? 

16:49: How the move to Liverpool came about. 

23:18: Manager and club committed to youth development and giving opportunities. 

24:40: Development of Curtis Jones and Jarell Quansah. Considering whether to loan players out or not.

35:33: Who should we be looking out for in the next generation of young players at Liverpool?

36:29: What was it like working with Jurgen Klopp and what makes him so special? Could you have stayed on when he left?

39:23: Transition of Arne Slot into the club. Tactical changes. Transformation of Ryan Gravenberch.

45:25: Ambitions for the future.

48:24: Favourite training exercises.

Our guest on Episode #65 of the TGG Podcast is Robbie Savage. 

As a player, Robbie made 346 Premier League appearances and captained four clubs. After retiring, he became a household name as a TV and radio pundit and appeared on Strictly in 2011.

Now he's pursuing a different career, as a Manager, with Macclesfield in the Northern Premier League. Robbie told us why he'd turned to coaching, about his approach to leadership and about his lofty ambitions as a Manager.

SHOW NOTES =>

02:07: Wishing he'd gone into coaching earlier. How move from Director of Football came about.

06:44: Coaching badges? Starts A Licence next year and then hopefully Pro. Need your badges. Sees coaching as a vocation and ambition to reach the top.

10:58: Engaging with fans. Pitching in. Change in relationship with players when you become Manager. Treat them like he would treat his son. 

13:40: Change in man management since he was a player. Becoming less visibly emotional. Calmer. Use of video analysis. Macclesfield expected to win every week. 

18:43: Style of play. Preferred formation. Players win matches, not tactics. 

24:40: Behaviour on the touchline? Setting the mood or calm and composed? Heart rate going high in technical area. 

27:55: Change in style of play in non-league. Guardiola influence. Wants his team to get the ball forward quickly when possible. Not keen on playing out from the back. 

32:36: Assistant wears a GoPro because of abuse from fans. Doesn't get paid at the moment. Could change when they go full-time. 

38:15: Approach has changed on 606 phone-in. More understanding of Managers. Important to have consistency of messaging as a pundit or Manager. Has had offers as a Manager at bigger clubs. 

44:15: Released at Manchester United. Make or break. Coached a team at Macclesfield made up of players who had been released and had great success. Callum West went to Burnley and now at Barnsley. 

49:21: Do the Academies prepare players well enough? James Edmondson from Blackburn. Difference between Academy and senior football. Strength of the pyramid. 

54:16: Different than he seemed as a player. Pantomime character. More than 350 Premier League games and captained four clubs. Keeps a book about all matches and what the Managers said. 

Our guest on Episode #64 of the TGG Podcast is Paul Fernie.

Paul is Sporting Director of SV Darmstadt in Germany. He grew up in Hull and worked in analysis roles in England before the opportunity came to join Wiesbaden.

He progressed from Head of Recruitment to Sporting Director and led the club from promotion to Bundesliga 2.

Paul told us how the Sporting Director role works in Germany, what it was like to work under Graham Potter and Paul Mitchell and why more English staff should give it a go abroad.