Tara Mills and Declan Harvey take on the tricky trans rights debate in today’s episode of The State of Us. Two local councils have become embroiled in the discussion. Where does the law stand in Northern Ireland, and what might be coming next?

They also chat about how the media reports on trans issues, and when the BBC has had to grapple with editorial decisions in this area.

Also on this episode: Declan’s dodgy ties and Tara’s TV trolling.

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This is an edited (mid-June 2025) version of our original recording. It includes some additional information about the statement that had been issued by the Equality Commission for Northern Ireland and reflects listener feedback about our discussion.