My guest today is Willow Defebaugh, the editor-in-chief of Atmos, a luxurious biannual magazine and engaging website dedicated to the intersection of climate and culture. Atmos features interviews of leading voices in the climate movement and beautiful photography and art portfolios that make the subject not only approachable, but understandable. As many of my guests say, radical change is necessary if we are going to slow down climate change, and we all know change is hard. But as a trans woman, Defebaugh understands keenly what it takes to embrace profound change, and she believes that as a society, as a community, we can absolutely do it.

Today, we’ll talk about all of it: climate, culture, consumerism, and how nature was an inspiration and a guide for her transition. As she has said, “Trans-ness is the ultimate embodiment of nature, because nature is a force of transformation and evolution.”

• Read the transcript of this episode
• Get to know Dana Thomas and her book Fashionopolis
• Learn more about Willow Defebaugh 
• Explore the fashion brand Another Tomorrow
• Music by Eric Brace of Red Beet Records
• Cover art by Studio Number One