In this episode Mark is joined by the Dean of the School of Theology & Leadership, David Timms. David has taught and written extensively on the topic of leadership and offers a succinct and timely explanation of what a true transformational leader looks like. Much of the material comes from David’s latest book, Shape Your World: Transformational Leadership for Everyday Life.

TRANSCRIPT

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Welcome to Jessup think I'm your host Mark Moore and we are in the studio today on the beautiful campus of William Jessup University, the sun is shining. And today on the show, we have the one, the only the Dean of our School of Christian Leadership and faculty of theology. David Timms. David, thanks for joining us on the show. Hey, Mark, good to be here. Hey, and I wanted to bring you on David specifically to talk about leadership, and really transformational leadership. A few years ago, the University updated its own mission statement to include that type of verbiage to include transformational leadership. And I know you've been researching and writing about leadership for the past three years or so. And you've recently published a book entitled shape your world transformational leadership for ever everyday life available on Amazon and other fine retailers. Just a little plug for you appreciate, you know, I try. I try. And And so with that, you know, and I think transformational leadership is very kind of particular languages seems to be shaping leadership in a certain way that some people may not be familiar with maybe how we're bringing those words together, and why it was important enough for the university to adjust its own mission statement. And so can you kind of just give us a baseline definition of transformational leadership?

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Sure. Well, and this was really interesting to me, because two or three years ago, our president modified our mission statement, as a university and said that we exist in partnership with the church to educate transformational leaders for the glory of God. And it was like, so what is a transformational leader? Right? Yeah, right. We started talking with people about and we realized that most people just reduced it to Oh, these are leaders who, I don't know, make a difference. Yeah. And transform thing. They that's what they do the transparent stuff. And it was like, oh, okay, well, that's not very deep. All right. All right. So then we began looking at it more closely and realized that transformational leadership, as a theory has been out in the marketplace since the late 70s. Okay, that's 40 years old. Yeah, it's just the Christians don't know it. Right? The business place marketplace knows that well. And so we took some of the research that was done in the late 70s and early 80s, by a couple of guys, burns and bass. And most of their language just too hard for people to get their tongue and their mind around. Right. Okay. So a simple way of doing it. So add definition, transformational leadership, is producing change and building lives. And that's really what the leadership piece is, yeah, true. Authenticity, inspiration, empathy, and innovation. So you got two outcomes, and you got four ways of doing it. And these are what we call here, the six pillars of transformational leadership. And it's starting to shape our curriculum. It's certainly shaped the book I wrote. And we're realizing that that these themes are not things we're coming up with. We're really just capturing what is the latest and best research in the leadership field. And it's like, wow, okay. It's all right there in that definition that we've we've come up with.

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Yeah. And it's interesting to know that it being maybe a new term for some people, or new way to describe leadership has been around since the late 70s, which for me, personally, was a beautiful and two decades, that's when I began so. So I may be as old as transformational leadership. But But with that, you like you're saying that that's been maybe