In the first episode of 2019, hosts Kim Wilson and Brian Sonenstein begin a conversation on transformative justice by discussing the concept of "Pods" and the process of "Pod-mapping."

These exercises involve developing skills and identifying relationships that are key to intervening in harm and providing the kind of support that accountability can demand.

Listeners can learn more and follow this conversation more closely via the following materials:

• Pods and Pod-Mapping Worksheet by Mia Mingus & Bay Area Transformative Justice Collective
• Creative Interventions Toolkit
• Think; Re-Think by Connie Burk (The Revolution Starts At Home)

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