Dr. Caroline Biesalski and Dr. Seth Clark explore the concept of reframing adversity, focusing on the transformative potential of retirement. They delve into how awareness of mortality can impact leadership, prompting a search for meaning in loss while maintaining agency. The conversation highlights reflective retirement practices, including the thought-provoking exercise of writing one's obituary. They discuss the difference between setting intentions and goals, offering insights into personal growth during transitional phases. The episode wraps up with final thoughts, encouraging listeners to reflect on how they can apply these insights to both their personal and professional lives.

(0:00) Introduction and reframing adversity

(2:21) The disruption and transformation of retirement

(4:30) Mortality awareness in leadership

(7:19) Finding meaning in loss and maintaining agency

(11:43) Reflective retirement practices and writing your obituary

(17:41) Setting intentions vs. goals

(20:25) Final thoughts and closing remarks