Trey McIntyre talks to us about how he got into choreography, what inspires him to create, and how to know when to leave.

See Parson's Dance perform Trey McIntyre's Ma Maison at The Joyce.

See BalletX perform a Trey McIntyre work at The Joyce.

Read more about Trey McIntyre's Big Ones, set to the music of Amy Winehouse, mentioned in the podcast.

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Thanks to Simon Kafka, the composer of our theme music, and the East West Quintet, who performed it. If you like it, you can purchase the song here.

Thank you to photographer Carrie Schneider and choreographer Kyle Abraham for providing the photograph for our show image. The photo features dancer Tamisha Guy in Abraham's Dearest Home.