Diversity & Inclusion--making a more equitable future for everyone to contribute to the metaverse--is the focus of this conversation with Trinidad Hermida. She was the head of Diversity and Inclusion for Niantic, the creators of Pokemon Go. Trinidad is now running her own consulting firm that advises game and technology companies how to bring "equity through empathy" into their organizations. We discussed many of the barriers that underrepresented people find when getting involved in the game industry (as well as technology, more broadly) as well as the reasons why companies ought to rise to the challenge and build bridges to these communities. We also get into Web3 and DAOs and why the newness, community-orientation and lack of institutional barriers may open up more opportunities to people of all backgrounds.